<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439652399294426401.post8571063227240806493..comments</id><updated>2007-10-31T21:40:34.599+05:30</updated><category term='interop'/><category term='axi2'/><category term='technology'/><category term='openid'/><category term='defence'/><category term='tools'/><category term='stateless computing'/><category term='javascript'/><category term='democracy'/><category term='wso2 wsas'/><category term='ec2'/><category term='cricket'/><category term='soa'/><category term='elephants'/><category term='open source'/><category term='conference'/><category term='eda'/><category term='grad school'/><category term='mashups'/><category term='wsf/c'/><category term='travel'/><category term='wso2 bps'/><category term='ibm'/><category term='sahaha'/><category term='hiking'/><category term='spring'/><category term='family'/><category term='flat world'/><category term='ws-*'/><category term='sri lanka'/><category term='.net'/><category term='eclipse'/><category term='wso2 registry'/><category term='ltte'/><category term='open standards'/><category term='axis2'/><category term='osi'/><category term='friends'/><category term='open development'/><category term='linux'/><category term='apache'/><category term='msft'/><category term='wsas'/><category term='p2p'/><category term='soap'/><category term='olpc'/><category term='java'/><category term='php'/><category term='security'/><category term='programming'/><category term='esb'/><category term='success'/><category term='cardspace'/><category term='esb wso2'/><category term='cloud'/><category term='india'/><category term='web services'/><category term='bash'/><category term='terrorism'/><category term='book'/><category term='oracle'/><category term='wsdl 2.0'/><category term='life'/><category term='rest'/><category term='obama'/><category term='passion'/><category term='carbon'/><category term='open office'/><category term='lsf'/><category term='twitter'/><category term='innovation'/><category term='governance'/><category term='fun'/><category term='data services'/><category term='wso2con'/><category term='ubuntu'/><category term='oxygentank'/><category term='wso2'/><title type='text'>Comments on Sanjiva Weerawarana's Blog: Bringing relational data to the Web</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/feeds/8571063227240806493/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/439652399294426401/8571063227240806493/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/2007/10/bringing-relational-data-to-web.html'/><author><name>Sanjiva Weerawarana</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10278760563625840210</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wGknk4VsZoY/SZ_YFItzJUI/AAAAAAAAAEs/_lkFsAoQf5A/S220/2003-10-23-Sanjiva.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>3</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439652399294426401.post-2548161337933597862</id><published>2007-10-31T21:40:00.000+05:30</published><updated>2007-10-31T21:40:00.000+05:30</updated><title type='text'>Hey Sanjiva. This looks interesting.  My one major...</title><content type='html'>Hey Sanjiva. This looks interesting.  My one major concern is that data access layer frameworks are not exactly new; neither is mapping relational data to other formats.  The problems with such frameworks tends to boil down to the details of sql query construction, performance, scalability, leaky abstractions, etc.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/439652399294426401/8571063227240806493/comments/default/2548161337933597862'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/439652399294426401/8571063227240806493/comments/default/2548161337933597862'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/2007/10/bringing-relational-data-to-web.html?showComment=1193847000000#c2548161337933597862' title=''/><author><name>James Snell</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12993461992320512775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/2007/10/bringing-relational-data-to-web.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439652399294426401.post-8571063227240806493' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/439652399294426401/posts/default/8571063227240806493' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-778652203'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439652399294426401.post-1669128772820652422</id><published>2007-10-30T21:15:00.000+05:30</published><updated>2007-10-30T21:15:00.000+05:30</updated><title type='text'>Hi Ravi,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SDO is a *much* more complicated s...</title><content type='html'>Hi Ravi,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;SDO is a *much* more complicated solution to a wider problem. (I was involved with some prior work to SDO while at IBM Research .. and also some prior work to SCA.) SDO basically is a normalization of the data. So yes, you can take relational data, normalize it and then bring it to XML (or to any other thing). However, in practice all such abstractions leak and to really do stuff you have to sniff the details and look at where the data came from.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;We just cut the crap and say "I want to take relational data to XML- just give me the shortest path." Just compare the level of understanding difference a programmer needs to have in order to do the same task with WSAS vs. with SDO and you'll become a believer ;-).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Sanjiva.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/439652399294426401/8571063227240806493/comments/default/1669128772820652422'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/439652399294426401/8571063227240806493/comments/default/1669128772820652422'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/2007/10/bringing-relational-data-to-web.html?showComment=1193759100000#c1669128772820652422' title=''/><author><name>Sanjiva Weerawarana</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10278760563625840210</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/2007/10/bringing-relational-data-to-web.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439652399294426401.post-8571063227240806493' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/439652399294426401/posts/default/8571063227240806493' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1057982227'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439652399294426401.post-9189988387714802231</id><published>2007-10-30T16:57:00.000+05:30</published><updated>2007-10-30T16:57:00.000+05:30</updated><title type='text'>Hi Sanjiva,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nice post. I wanted to check wh...</title><content type='html'>Hi Sanjiva,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Nice post. I wanted to check what is the difference between WSAS and SDO based application framework such as BEA's AquaLogic Data Services Platform or IBM's Esperanto?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ravi...</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/439652399294426401/8571063227240806493/comments/default/9189988387714802231'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/439652399294426401/8571063227240806493/comments/default/9189988387714802231'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/2007/10/bringing-relational-data-to-web.html?showComment=1193743620000#c9189988387714802231' title=''/><author><name>Ravi Pinto</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00336019343819447743</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/2007/10/bringing-relational-data-to-web.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439652399294426401.post-8571063227240806493' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/439652399294426401/posts/default/8571063227240806493' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-988675958'/></entry></feed>
